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FastEd
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April 10, 2009, 03:18:46 PM »
I have been looking for a backup game to this for a little while now and after playing some free stuff and some source offerings I got to wondering where did t2 go wrong? There are some really dismal games out there with comparatively huge communities, while this one languishes in anonymity. We can say its old now, people moved on, but the player base has been really low for a long time. Cs1.6 is old too as is quakeIII and neither of them can hold a candle to this, yet they have communities that dwarf ours. T2 is free can be run on just about any hardware you have, I just can not understand its lack of popularity.
Mruballos
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1: April 10, 2009, 03:26:10 PM »
Tribes 2 is actually really addicting. It's a awesome game, and many people that I've told them about love it. I think that the learning of it will be a pain in the ass for new people, and also some people in our community. That's right, some people here in the community are dicks, and will make fun of new ones and drive them away. I am not saying who, but there is people.
Mruballos
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2: April 10, 2009, 03:28:22 PM »
Also, I have been thinking on gathering money and come up with a small community. Host a website and a small server, maybe 32 people or so. And just gather new people and host events with them, until they learn and can move up to like Goon Haven or Branzone. Like that they can have a server to mess around in and learn the game.
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3: April 10, 2009, 03:32:30 PM »
In before someone blames community drama.

Full Disclosure: I've only been aware of/playing T1/T2 for about two years, only knew about TN in January.

I wouldn't call it 'going wrong', but it did sort of fall off the public radar. It might be the difficulty curve of learning everything there is in Tribes scared people away and killed publicity. Maybe those of us that can handle the action really are as rare as the community size suggests.

I never heard of Tribes until I stumbled upon a Wikipedia article listing out freeware games and seeing Starsiege Tribes on the list, and that was just a couple years ago. I knew T2 had been released free too but the keys to play online were all gone. Sierra did sort of summarily drop everything when T:V came around, which might have put a nail in things to thin the playerbase. I was around when the T1 master server disappeared, and it took a little while for people to migrate to the new one, and it never quite seemed that we got everyone back. Maybe it's the same way here; everyone hasn't come back yet.

I've never done CS or Q3, so can't really comment on their popularity. If there were content updates from the devs going on in those two, it might have reinforced the players they had, and so it all kept going; whereas for T1 and T2, content updates come from we the players, might be something to that.

TN's still in a beta phase. I'll share in the optimism that once T-mail and clans get back up and running we might see a nice big growth of players.

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FastEd
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4: April 10, 2009, 03:50:36 PM »
I hope the return of the browser has a positive effect, but I cant imagine the player base would increase much over just that.  The game needs more word of mouth, but there are only about 200 mouths here.
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5: April 10, 2009, 04:44:55 PM »
It's way too hard for the average gamer. With 90% of the games that are popular, you can be a complete moron and still play them effectively. In T2 you have to be a competent gamer if you want to be able to do anything at all. It also doesn't help that a very large majority of the original T1 fan-base abandoned T2 early on because of Base. So, T2 had a tough time attracting new gamers as well as old fans. Unfortunately, gaming nowadays is not about skill or depth or anything remotely substantial. Gaming nowadays is about graphics, spam and thoughtlessness.

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6: April 10, 2009, 05:47:11 PM »
I have been looking for a backup game to this for a little while now and after playing some free stuff and some source offerings I got to wondering where did t2 go wrong? There are some really dismal games out there with comparatively huge communities, while this one languishes in anonymity. We can say its old now, people moved on, but the player base has been really low for a long time. Cs1.6 is old too as is quakeIII and neither of them can hold a candle to this, yet they have communities that dwarf ours. T2 is free can be run on just about any hardware you have, I just can not understand its lack of popularity.

Due to top games such as World of Warcraft, or even COD5, Gear 2, this game is basicly shadowed by them, this game is old like you said and because of that newer gamers never heard of this game, let a lone Tribes 1, its all a matter of trying to recruit people into it.
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7: April 10, 2009, 06:22:46 PM »
there are many reasons you can attribute to this like age, a large learning curve and such.I think one of the biggest problems is that PC gaming in itself is in a decline.Consoles have taken much of the PC market and we have lost the younger generation to them.Much of the older PC generation have moved on to the pretty games or things like WOW which are total time sucks and leave room for little else.
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8: April 10, 2009, 08:50:46 PM »
It's way too hard for the average gamer. With 90% of the games that are popular, you can be a complete moron and still play them effectively. In T2 you have to be a competent gamer if you want to be able to do anything at all. It also doesn't help that a very large majority of the original T1 fan-base abandoned T2 early on because of Base. So, T2 had a tough time attracting new gamers as well as old fans. Unfortunately, gaming nowadays is not about skill or depth or anything remotely substantial. Gaming nowadays is about graphics, spam and thoughtlessness.

I agree entirely with that post. i showed the guys in my class it, the younger guys (17-18) said, "dude that sucks." to which i replied, "What?! Why?" he says, "Those graphics suck..." then i told him to not even talk anymore. Which he didn't. Sadly none of the guys who would give it a shot have gotten around to getting it yet.

It's very unfortunate, they all think console gaming is the way to go...

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9: April 10, 2009, 11:35:24 PM »
It's way too hard for the average gamer. With 90% of the games that are popular, you can be a complete moron and still play them effectively. In T2 you have to be a competent gamer if you want to be able to do anything at all. It also doesn't help that a very large majority of the original T1 fan-base abandoned T2 early on because of Base. So, T2 had a tough time attracting new gamers as well as old fans. Unfortunately, gaming nowadays is not about skill or depth or anything remotely substantial. Gaming nowadays is about graphics, spam and thoughtlessness.

I agree entirely with that post. i showed the guys in my class it, the younger guys (17-18) said, "dude that sucks." to which i replied, "What?! Why?" he says, "Those graphics suck..." then i told him to not even talk anymore. Which he didn't. Sadly none of the guys who would give it a shot have gotten around to getting it yet.

It's very unfortunate, they all think console gaming is the way to go...

You should go to them and say congratulations, you have unlocked achievment Graphic Whore.

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10: April 11, 2009, 01:30:38 AM »
Imo TRIBES 1&2 are the 1 and 2 best shooter games. But both have their problems. To be short the trouble is just a "sign of the times" , like grandmas with tramp stamps, I guess. It's a damn shame that some folks find it easier to dig into the system to gain advantage rather than to take their lumps and learn from them and become a better player.

I said this before and yes I'm going to say it again maybe a different way.  Cheaters have killed this game. And until you can find people that like to be cheated or fix the problem, I believe TRIBES is dead.

It's just a shame. Look at some of the more popular shooters out there in comparison to TRIBES. Who wants to walk and maybe run when you can fly.

And as for the cheaters and those that lie about there being none (which aint really helping the problem). F#cking suck azz! TRIBES killers!
« Last Edit: April 11, 2009, 08:50:40 AM by SupremeKahuna »

............, Because I rather play TRIBES
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11: April 11, 2009, 03:00:50 AM »
It's way too hard for the average gamer.Gaming nowadays is about graphics, spam and thoughtlessness.
that was all you needed to say >_>
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No way is T2 hard, its just people using cheats/scripts/nooboffs on public servers.

I dont care about the graphics, maybe Pacman has terrible graphics, but people still play it.
Same thing with Tribes 2, terrible graphics, awesome gameplay.

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12: April 11, 2009, 03:27:27 AM »
Yes all those pac man assholes and their HM2's... Wait, you're an idiot.

It's way too hard for the average gamer.Gaming nowadays is about graphics, spam and thoughtlessness.

This is all that needs to be said. And maybe that T2 players are the biggest jerks/nerds on the internet. I've never met a man of flesh and blood who could stand any of you pricks for more than 30 seconds.
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13: April 11, 2009, 05:24:59 AM »
Every community is filled with assholes, and every community has cheats. In fact, most popular games have 50x more of both than Tribes ever has. Anyone saying that either of those things contributed even 1% to the downfall of T2 is an idiot.

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14: April 11, 2009, 08:54:46 AM »
And 1% is mostly all that has yet to depart

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« Last Edit: April 11, 2009, 08:59:52 AM by SupremeKahuna »

............, Because I rather play TRIBES
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