Ffs just email hirez and ask them to put tribes on steam already.

Right, so email hirez and ask them if they'd put t1 and t2 and maybe starseige on steam?

The players who frequent scp servers generally only want to play classic, not, for example, triumph or similar mods, with other people, not bots. There are a number of scp vets who do play there and enjoy triumph, but not many.

The Sami has stated Saturdays might be best for him.
Maybe two pugs per week?

Evenings US time, at scp or scp lak servers.

Link to t2 3dsmax stuff I've uncovered so far;
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=74184539609214585176

Here's a link to what t2 related 3dsmax bits I've found so far;
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=74184539609214585176

try here;
http://vetusware.com/download/3D%20Studio%20Max%202.5/?id=13242

Also I have these if needed;

- "Msvcrtd.dll" needs to go in the 3DS Max 2.5 folder.
- "ViconCombiningExporter.DLO" needs to go in the 3DS Max 2.5\Plugins folder.

A word on keeping backup parts and/or systems;

The other day while trying to play T2, my gtx280 went into "split screen" mode, one side of the screen had a different camera view from that of the left. This wasn't the only time the card had farted, with obvious artifacting taking place under no load conditions making me suspect the end was near for my elderly 280. For those inexperienced with such, this is a example of artifacting;
https://mlambert890.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/8800gtx_video_artifact_02.jpg
  Sometimes a driver or other software issue can cause the hardware to seem corrupted but in this case a driver revision didn't help at all, the card was on its last pixel. Good thing I had kept the gtx260 the 280 had replaced, so the 260 was installed and driver replaced with little to no apparent performance hit at least in t1 and t2. Ta is another matter where the greater total memory on the card is a great asset but the 250 plays it well enough. Ta was where the first artifacts became apparent but at the time I was unsure if the lockup was vid card or network related, in ta if the net farts the system basically freezes for a time. I could have gone with a newer vid card but the rest of the gaming pc's parts are 2008 era, however a more power efficient vid card would be nice to have. The 260 series are power hogs.

  So, moral of the story; keep spare parts or a spare system on hand for when your pc breaks - because it will. Like cars, it's almost a rule that if you have one you need two for when the first breaks down and leaves you somewhere.

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Tribal IDE
The Tribes 2/V12 Script Development Environment

Version : Beta 3.7
Date    : 08/09/2001
Author  : David Dunscombe
email   : [email protected]
Website : http://tribes.barrysworld.net/ide/
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disclaimer for Tribal IDE. This does not mean that Tribal IDE is
distributed under GPL.

          BECAUSE THE PROGRAM IS LICENSED FREE OF
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     PROVE DEFECTIVE, YOU ASSUME THE COST OF
     ALL NECESSARY SERVICING,  REPAIR OR
     CORRECTION.

Whats New
---------
   Fixed - current file functions was not updating correctly on file save
   
   Fixed - If connection to debugging server was not disconnected via the IDE subsequant editing
      woudl generate an exception
   
   Fixed - double clicking of find in files messages would not always pick the correct file if there
      were more than one file of the same name in the project

   Fixed - compile and exec modified will now only compile and exec files which T2/V12 already has
      running, these files have a green file icon next to them while in debugging mode. To compile
      a file that is not currently running in T2/V12 right click on in in the project view and
      click compile. If successfully compiled & execed it will have a green file icon next to it.   


Things to Do
------------
   
   Virtual folders
         

Overview
--------

What is Tribal IDE?

   Tribal IDE is an easy to use environment in which to develop scripts and modifications for
Tribes 2 and also GarageGames V12 Engine ( www.garagegames.com ).


Installation
------------
If your reading this you've installed it =D. If you've used the install then Tribal IDE will require
a restart as the install updates the common controls (although if you have Internet Explorer 5 installed
you dont have to restart).


Shortcut Keys
-------------
Comment Block   [SHIFT+ALT+C] - Add comment '//' to begining of every selected line
UnComment Block [SHIFT+ALT+U] - Remove comment '//' from begining of every selected line
Indent Block    [TAB] - Indent selected block by specified tab width
UnIndent Block  [SHIFT+TAB] - Unindent block by specified tab width

Connect/Resume Debugging [F9] - Connect to debug server, once connected this will resume.
Step Into [F7] - Step into code on line.
Step Over [F8] - Step over current line.
Toggle Breakpoint [F5] - Toggle breakpoint (if possible) at current line.

Plus typical editor ones.

Creating a project
------------------
To create a new project click on the New Project button. This shows a window with a Project Name and
Base Path edit boxes. Type in a name for your project in the space provided. The base path is used
to work out the relative path names for a script. This is needed as the debugger will send the IDE
filenames in the format 'scripts\turret.cs' without an absolute path. So this base path needs to be
something like 'C:\Dynamix\Tribes2\GameData\MyMod\' where mymod is similar to base (ie. you scripts
will be in C:\Dynamix\Tribes2\GameData\MyMod\scripts\ directory). Click OK and the IDE will ask you
whether you want to to scan for .cs files in all subdirectorys from this path.

VL2 in Project Support
----------------------
VL2 files (which are zip files) can be added to the project. The files within them can be open within
the editor as read only. If you want to edit them you will have to extract the vl2 manually and add the
files. However find in files, function browser and debugging will work transparently with the files
within the vl2.

Function Browser
----------------
The function browser initially will parse all the files in your project for functions and the classes
they are in. It will show them in a large list. As you save files in your project the list will
instantly update with the functions your have added/edited or deleted. There is also a seperate list of
the functions in the active file. Also when you rigth click on a function in the editor, say for example

      %game.onAIFriendlyFire(%clVictim, %clAttacker, %damageType, %sourceObject);

if you right clicked on the on onAIFriendlyFire bit your would see on the popup menu 5 places where this
function is defined CnHGame::onAIFriendlyFire, CTFGame::onAIFriendlyFire, etc. This can be clicked on to
jump to the relevant code.


Using the debugger
------------------
Tribes 2 has implemented a remote debugger. You can connect to it via a Tribes 2 client with debugger();
but I thought it'd be nice to have a windows app be able to do this. The first thing you need to do
is start up Tribes 2 either

a) on another PC which is on the same network as you
b) run Tribes 2 in a window on same PC
c) run it as a dedicated server on same PC.

For the debugging feature to work correctly you need to have a project with the same script files as
Tribes 2 is running. Also the path for each file needs to be the same relative path as tribes 2,
eg the path next to the script 'defaultGame.cs' in Tribal IDE project view needs to be 'scripts\'.
The relative path for each file in a project is worked out from the base path you set when you
created the project.

Once you have Tribes 2 is running you need to type in the following command in the Tribes 2 console to
enable the debugger

         dbgsetparameters(PORT_NUMBER,PASSWORD);

Where PORT_NUMBER is a value such as 28040 and PASSWORD is a password that you will use to only
allow valid people to connect to the debugger. Once you have typed that in you get a message back
something like this

Binding server port to default IP

The debugger is now running. Now start Tribal IDE and go to the preferences window. Click on the
debugger icon in the preferences window. There are three values you need to enter to into Tribal
IDE to connect to the debugger. The first is the IP address of where the Tribes 2 running the debugger
is. If its on the same PC as the IDE type in 127.0.0.1 for the address. Now enter the port value you
entered earlier in Tribes 2 in the Server Port box. Finally enter the password you set also earlier.
Click OK to save the changes. If all things are correctly setup you should be able to click on the
PLAY button and the following messages should appear in the message window at the bottom of the IDE.

Connecting to debug server
Connected to debug server
Sending Password
Password Accepted
Requesting Server Script List

Some buttons on the toolbar will also become active. If you click on the pause button Tribes 2 will
stop and the IDE will jump to the line that you paused on. Breakpoints can be toggled by clicking on
the little icons in the editor gutter.

BreakPoints
-----------
Once your connected to the debugger, you may notice some little blue dots down the side of an open file.
These indicate points at which you can tell Tribes 2 to stop if it hits that line. Just click the blue dot,
the line will then turn red to indicate this is now a breakpoint. All breakpoints you set are shown in a
breakpoint window. These can be group or changed to have certain conditions, for example when a variable
is a certain number you might to want to pause at the breakpoint. The breakpoints can be assigned into
groups and disabled/enabled.


Watches
-------
Watches can be set for variables. There are a few methods to see what value a variable has. One is to
just move the mouse cursor over the variable, the value that variable has will appear in the status bar
at the bottom of the IDE. Another way is to select the variable or combination of variable and method,
so for example if there was a line such as

   %turretTarg = %turret.getTarget();
      
You could highlight %turret.getTarget() and do [CTRL+F5] and the %turret.getTarget() and its value would
appear in the watch window at the bottom. Another method is to just type in a variable at the bottom
of the watch list and hit ENTER.

You can change the values of variables by double clicking on the watch item in the watch list.

Call Stack
----------
The callstack shows a list the preceeding calls that resulted in the location you are currently at. To jump
to the file and line of the functions shown, just double click on it.


Compile and exec Single file
----------------------------
For this to work you need to be connected to the Tribes 2 debugger. It is available as a right click
option on the project view.


Compile and Exec Modified files
-------------------------------
For this to work you need to be connected to the Tribes 2 debugger.

This feature allows you do syntax checking and see the changes you have made instantly within Tribes 2.
It only attempts to compile and exec files already running in T2/V12, these are indicated by the green
file icon in the project view. To compile a file not currently running in T2/V12 right click on the file
in the project view and click on compile. A green file icon should appear next to it if it compiled and
execed sucessfully.

Tribal IDE keeps track of the files you have modified and havn't been compiled. So when you click the
Compile and Exec button it will first ask you to save any unsaved files, and then tell Tribes 2 to
compile specific scripts. Any syntax errors that Tribes 2 generates will be appear in the messages
window, these can be double clicked on to goto the specific file and line. Once completed compiling and
execing the IDE will report how many files it has managed to compiled and how many it has failed to
compile. The list of failed to compile files will appear also in the messages window.

Runtime Errors
--------------
Runtime errors will appear in the console window, these can be also double clicked on to go to the file
and line number.


I know this documentation is rubbish =D, more next version.... honest =D

David Dunscombe.


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History
-------

Beta 3.7 08-09-2001
-------------------
   Fixed - current file functions was not updating correctly on file save
   
   Fixed - If connection to debugging server was not disconnected via the IDE subsequant editing
      woudl generate an exception
   
   Fixed - double clicking of find in files messages would not always pick the correct file if there
      were more than one file of the same name in the project

   Fixed - compile and exec modified will now only compile and exec files which T2/V12 already has
      running, these files have a green file icon next to them while in debugging mode. To compile
      a file that is not currently running in T2/V12 right click on in in the project view and
      click compile. If successfully compiled & execed it will have a green file icon next to it.   



Beta 3.6 21-05-2001
-------------------

   Fixed - drill down wasnt working correctly after a few levels

Beta 3.5 18-05-2001
-------------------

   Added - drill down watches thanks Tinman! =D

   Added - vl2 caching, file in vl2 is cached on first load - this speeds up find in files

   Fixed - vl2 .dso files not included in project

Beta 3.2 11-05-2001 :
---------------------

   Fixed - Current file functions for non-vl2(zip) files was not working =/ oops

Beta 3.1 10-05-2001 :
---------------------

   Fixed - Breakpointable points not being cleared in certain situations

   Fixed - Dosn't request breakpoint list every time active editor is changed

   Fixed - Now only scans a zip once for functions after it is changed, was rescaning every project load

   Fixed - Breakpoint line not being coloured red in certain situations

   Added - Goto definition, right click on function in editor and jump to definition

Beta 3 06-05-2001 :
-------------------

   Added - Dockable windows - move into center of another window to create tabs

   Added - VL2 in project support, find in files will search in vl2, open files in read only   

   Added - Breakpoint list with conditional breakpoints, and enabling/disabling of groups

   Added - Call stack

   Changed - Changed indent/unindent block to TAB and SHIFT TAB when there is selected text

   Added - Find drop downs now remember previous searchs after editor is closed

   Added - Added current file function list - shows functions that in current active file

   Fixed - Hitting return on quick find edit box now repeats search - also removed beep

   Fixed - Doing close all whilst in debugging caused incoming breakpoint list to re-open
      the file.


Beta 2 22-04-2001 :
-------------------
   
   Bug fixes and small feature improvements

   Some situations close project would return false, causing closing of app to
   incorrectly fail.

   Fixed 'Save As' erm not working =D oops

   Fixed status bar jumping above watch/console/message window

   Fixed watch window now will ask for all watches when a single watch variable is changed,
   as it might affect the other watches

   Now Checking filelist debugger sends me for all querys to debugger, before sending       
   breakpoint list requests out - fixes breakpoints not appearing on files.

   Added .gui to open/save file dialogs
   
   Added seperate font/other options for printing out

   Added read-only checks, will ask to clear read only flag on creation of new project. On
   every save it will check if the file has attribute set, if so asks whether the IDE should
   clear it

   Saves main window position when not maximized

   Now asks before making .cs and .gui file associations


Beta 1 21-04-2001 :
-------------------
   Limited first release of Tribal IDE


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STATED IN WRITING THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS
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"AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND,
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MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  THE ENTIRE RISK AS  TO
THE QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE
PROGRAM IS WITH YOU.  SHOULD THE PROGRAM
PROVE DEFECTIVE, YOU ASSUME THE COST OF
ALL NECESSARY SERVICING,  REPAIR OR
CORRECTION.

Do the same dynamix people who worked on T2 also work on Midair? Who was the game designer?

MA is made by a separate group of devs.
https://www.playmidair.com/press/

A dev answers some burning Tribes questions;

Q; Always wondered what the file extensions in Tribes meant. Such as .cs, .dso, perhaps you could fill in the details?
A; I don't recall exactly what the extensions meant -- .cs was for script files, .dso might have been dynamix script object or something like that.


Q; Hi again and thanks for the reply on the file extensions. Another burning question for you; is it spoken "dynamics" or "dyna-mix"?
A; Dynamics

Domain's up for grabs.

Is read only enabled in the properties for the Dynamix folder? Tried another update?

And a word from one of T2's devs;



Hmmm. The only thing I can think of is the significant patch we did at GarageGames as one of our first projects. I don't remember an official expansion; though we pitched doing one for Sierra, ultimately they went a different direction with the franchise.

Glad you're still playing!!


This was the response to my question below;
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:20 AM Blakhart wrote:
    Hi (redacted), been a while since I emailed you, hope everything is well, and a friend asked me if I knew what the "Tribes2 Expansion Pack" is or was or could have been. I have to say I don't remember reading/hearing about it so I ask you for any input as well as any T2 history tidbits you'd like to pass along. Have a good one in whatever you're doing these days and thanks for some great games, still play t1 and t2 almost daily.

Blakhart